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Old 07.10.2013, 07:57 PM   #563
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Originally Posted by Severian
You west coast fellas (in truth, geographically speaking at least, I'm one of you, so no insult intended) seem to be way too wrapped up in things like cadence, and also... Cadence.

At least you noticed my biggest beef without me having to say it again, it was beginning to sound redundant on my part

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Seriously, one of the reasons I took to easy coast hip hop like Wu and Jay Z was that it was NOT so clipped and articulated and full of vocal gymnastics. I think the over emphasis on that kind of thing really made the difference between "rap" and "hip hop." The west coast rap scene (and the Cleveland rap scene, I guess) made vocal delivery so important that it left no room for sloppiness, fun, or non-fabricated personality.

This is true, except that it actually allows for even MORE expression of personality and individual flavor of the rapper.

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I have a hard time listening to anyone who works so hard on sounding a certain way. I love the Chronic, Doggystyle, and Straight Outta Compton, but for me, it's all about sneaking cleverness into the thug act.

But isn't that attention to sound what makes rap actual music in the first place? When rappers like Snoop are essentially singing, its safe to say that its music.

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You're right that Jay Z is not the rap technician that any of LA's major players were.

Thank you for that concession, I sincerely appreciate the nod.


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That's not to say that Wu Tang doesn't have cadence down. They do, and always have. They're truly skilled rappers, but they let themselves spazz out, improvise, and have fun.

Wu is ALL about their cadence and delivery, its what sets apart each individual wu rapper and their various side/solo projects.

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Also, both artists have the ability to rap about things other than guns and physical prowess. East Coasters used samples for more than just beats. They also used vocals for more than melody, and as a whole, have always been more loose lipped and humorous than their coastal counterparts.

We have some ridiculously funny west-coast rap, but I feel you, sometimes we do here in the West take ourselves so damned seriously
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