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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
Well I guess if you "know" it to be, therefore socialism is Father Christmas!
In this country we've had public ownership of various means of production and then private ownership of the same things and both come with their own set of pitfalls but ultimately it's obvious which is more in the public interest. And let me just make clear that that is public ownership.
However Jeremy Corbyn's popularity is only partly about public ownership of stuff, and as much about foreign policy, austerity, income inequality, and the lack of sincerity and clear disdain for the electorate of the political class.
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i don't know corbyn or what he stands for. but if you think that the corporatocrats will allow governments to expropriate their profitable businesses then you're 100% unready for the fight that is about to ensue should that be his intention.
as for income inequality, etc.-- sure. the problem is that those who want equality are a buch of easily-defeated wusses. the righ-wingers are evil but get shit done. look at occupy wallstreet and your student riots. zero results. meanwhile, the teaparty put a bunch of people in office and the tories kept scotland.
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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
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i seriously hope he can convince the english yahoo block to vote for him. for one thing it would be amazing to have one fewer enabler-nation of US militarism. sweet shitting jesus, imagine the longstanding US/UK alliance undone. all that MASSIVE military hardware money freed up for reasonable things.
well, fuck, merry christmas then. it's not going to happen, but it's a nice dream. go for it anyway.