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Old 11.18.2014, 08:24 PM   #18257
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@ demoño- taste! of course. i love all those directors you mention, except for sirk whom i don't know yet (i think i haven't seen anything by him, or if i did i don't recall his name). don't get me wrong, i love a good drama too, and fellini has been my favorite director for a very long time. as for melodrama, fuck yeah, good stuff.

as for other "cold" ones: buñuel is cold as fuck, but often hilarious; godard is brilliant but often just trying to prove a theoretical point (my favorite movie of his is la mépris ((contempt)) = because it's probably the most visceral. tarantino is pretty fucking cold beneath his violence porn-- he can be really good though but if we wanna talk about cartoons he makes some good ones.

where i draw the line is not in coldness, but more than that, cynicism. which is why i can't stand harmony korine. also a lot of broken people whose names i can't recall because they aren't worth a fuck, ha ha ha.

eisenstein maybe he was cold or maybe he was doing something else? i totally love his early stuff with th emphasis on the social away from the lone hero. it's a different mode of cognition and i appreciate it.

but if you like melodrama, damn, check out einsenstein's "que viva mexico" (unfinished, but wow, beautifully shot, but manichaean as fuck--i still like it though). a lot of propaganda films are melodramas (eg "moscow doesn't believe in tears") so... i think good melodrama works and bad melodrama stinks of dead rats-- it's a risky thing, that genre-- too manipulative.

damn, these posts are getting long and i could write many pages. if you are ever near new mexico we should get plastered, eat pig or beef, and discuss movies.

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
tldr? I love Steinbeck, hate Delillo, but wouldn't want to say who the better writer was/is.

hhaaa haaa haaaa... i get your point

i don't like steinbeck much (it was over the top as i recall) but he was more important because at the time he wrote books mattered much more. nowadays literature is peripheral to the culture and writers know it. so it's a kind of endgame literature. only people making documentary films think they can still change the world. and nonfiction writers, the poor fools.

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ps- this is how much an asshole i am. remember that movie about the brazilian kids searching for their father? i can't remember the name--late late 90s it was-- anyway, midway through the movie i couldn't stop laughing, for fucks sakes. it was too fucking much. ridiculousness. my friends were crying and i had to bite my tongue. CENTRAL STATION. jeezus fucking christ. won a ton of awards. it was way over the top and i hated it.
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