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Originally Posted by chicka

No way no how the USA upsets Israel. It has nothing to do with President being screwed by anti-Israel sentiment. Look where Israel is located, if it comes down to a large scale war in the Mideast we have a strong hold in Israel where we can reach out and attack all them oil rich countries from.

Plus Israel has atomic power. They probably have more stored WMD than all those other nations in the Mideast combined.

No way USA risk loosing the Ally they have in Israel. No way they give up that land.

you know the saying, "there are no permanent enemies or permanent allies, only permanent interests".

considered what happened with turkey and conflicting interests between having a powerful neighbor on their side and an angry muslim populace within. turkey still has nato, but israel has no friends nearby.

all that it takes for the usa-israel alliance to break is for israel to become such a burden on the united states that we're willing to let go of it. of course there's AIPAC, and pro-israel interests have HUGE sway in american politics, to a level that doesn't exist in another country, but that's not something that couldn't be overcome by public outrage led by isolationist groups (ron paul et. al.)

netanyahu is a fucking oaf and a bully and a demagogue who was behind the murder of yitzak rabin, and now he's taking his country into the fascist hellhole that gives him wet dreams every night.

he needs to be kicked out of power, but with the disgraceful support of the labor party betraying itself, plus the right-wing immigrant party, he'll continue pushing palestinians to radicalize while at the same time claiming that it's such a radicalization that forces him to continue the systematic oppresion of palestinians. at the same time, the so-called "new-antisemitism" continues on the rise as israel is equated with apartheid south-africa or even genocidal nazism-- which is wrong--south africa is a better comparison.

however, israel is NOT that netanyahu swine, but labor and the left have been ineffectual and now labor cozyied up to him to form a coalition government. kadima remains as the opposition and, even though they were founded by the swine ariel sharon, this hapened at the time when sharon had seen the need to forge peace with the palestinians. then, conveniently, he had a stroke, just like rabin was killed on the eve of peace.

anyway, about 49% of the population support netanyahu-- that leaves another 51% who oppose him but can't get rid of him at the moment. so let's not be so quick to condemn a whole country for its pigheaded leaders.

nevertheless, no alliances are permanent, etc etc.

i forget where i was going with this, but it's time for breakfast anyway.