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Old 01.04.2013, 11:11 AM   #35
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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
For those of you living in the States who get paid tomorrow, your paycheck will be 2% less due to Social Security. Unemployment benefits were extended, so enjoy working for less pay while individuals who aren't working are able to stay not working longer.

Remember, this is the small decrease......

First, let's get it straight - everyone in America this morning is paying more taxes this next year on the federal, state and local level. It is the government tri-fecta.

Second, let's get it straight again - not only are we paying more taxes, from those on minimum wage to those that are millionaires, spending just increased overnight by 61 billion dollars.

Third, the deficit just hit 3 more trillion dollars to hit just over 21 million in the next four years.

So in a nut shell, you will pay more and the government will borrow more just to keep the door open. And there is no end in sight.
Why did this happen? Well it is simple folks - you voted. You continue to vote people in that spend your money like it was water and when it is gone - they want more. And you can do nothing to stop it - nobody can at this point. And we mean nobody.

The numbers? Well the average paycheck will see a $200 a month decrease in what you make. Meaning - you will pay around $200 more a month in payroll taxes. The Bush tax cuts are now gone. The government wins - you now will pay your fair share.

If you die - well you will be hit also by 28%. Meaning if you are older or have medical issues - uh....get it into a trust now.

Your medical insurance - now taxable and get ready for just over a 10% tax for Obamacare! Enjoy that health insurance folks!

Oh...ya - just about forgot something - the Congress and the President get a pay increase. The house voted to overturn the executive order (yes the president just did it) and it looks as of this writing that the pay increase will be shut down? Who knows - it is a mess!

Would you rather two-million or so people suddenly drop out of the economy altogether? Lets get it straight, unemployment isn't exactly the dole or even welfare, you have to have actually WORKED to be eligible for any of it, so its not just a bunch of lazy fucks. For those who haven't been having the privilege to have to be applying for work, its very difficult for a great many people lately. Unemployment is a way to keep the economy at least partially afloat in the downtime. Besides, unemployment doesn't pay but a fraction of the bills..

So Bytor, was it your solution, lower the taxes and let the corporations reign supreme? That trickle-down shit didn't work either, or did y'all forget that (a) Bush I had to raise taxes to make up for Reagan's blunder and (b)we have to raise the taxes again because of the blunders of Bush II

So I'm not sure exactly which fiscal conservatives you'd like us to vote for, because all the previous so-called conservatives have been as liberal in their deficit spending as anyone else! And again, would you also prefer to pay for your father's expensive medical care which I am sure Medicare is covering at least a portion of the tab? That is your alternative, pay a little bit more in your taxes now, or pay the entirety of the tab at the end, take your pick, but that shit costs money. Are your kids in public school? Oh right, that costs money too. Stop at a traffic light or hop on the freeway this morning? Oh right, that costs the government money too. Flush to toilet or turn on the tap? Yeah, that is that big bad government spending for ya, how dare the government try to provide essential public services, who the fuck do they think they are making it so people don't die in the street from geriatric diseases and that folks have marginally clean water to drink and the shit doesn't sit in open sewers at the curb and traffic flows AND BUSINESS (i.e. goods and services) smoothly through the world's most advances public infrastructure. Hey, lets let the TEA Party have their way, gut the public funding, and then we can become the haven for free-market capitalism like.. Somalia
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