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Originally Posted by Blatherskite
I don' think it was any intention in any point in the history of jazz to be rebellious.
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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Jazz was never rebellious. All hail the new music messiah!
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Your thinking is about as deep as a speed bump. And each of you betray a firm foundation of musical ignorance with your unintentionally revealing jibber-jabber.
Um, when Charlie Parker said "fuck you" to the notes on the sheet in front of him and blew free on "Cherokee" in 1939...
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Originally Posted by wiki
By now, Parker was emerging as a leading figure in the nascent bebop scene. According to an interview Parker gave in the 1950s, one night in 1939, he was playing "Cherokee" in a jam session with guitarist William 'Biddy' Fleet when he hit upon a method for developing his solos that enabled him to play what he had been hearing in his head for some time, by building on the chords' extended intervals, such as ninths, elevenths, and thirteenths.
Early in its development, this new type of jazz was rejected and disdained by many older, more established jazz musicians, whom the beboppers in response called 'moldy figs'.
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...that was the first great act of rebellion. There have been countless others acts of rebellion by countless jazz musicians since as the music was pushed forward.
(which it did...up until the fusion sell-out(s) in the '70s)
Now there we other influences to be sure (Abstract Expressionist painting, early Rock 'n' Roll), but it was primarily the Hard Bop of the '50s and '60s that gave rise to the beatniks. The activisists wtihin the beatnik subculture along with the early civil rights leaders, helped spawn the civil rights movement. The counter-culture hippie generation followed suit and so forth...
It was also jazz music that first found a lot of artists (nearly all of them immigrants or otherwise minorities) putting out their own records, and forming musical communities. The conscientious artist-friendly labels like Blue Note led the charge. Blues and Jazz musicians invented the DIY aesthetic long before garage bands.
One of the reasons marijuana was outlawed in the United States is because of the popularity of early jazz.
Lawmakers feared their white women might venture into a jazz club and get stoned and sleep with a black man.
Jazz, although it has some roots in the blues (music borne of slavery and by those of the lowest possible rung of society), is an original musical art form. As any idiot should know, "new" and "original," by nature, often spells T-R-O-U-B-L-E.
By the time jazz started to spawn a a solid subculture, it became a "rebellious threat" to be sure.