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Originally Posted by gualbert
Those genres are pointless and will soon disappear.
I mean it's just punk/hc.
Conflict, Civil Disobedience, Calloused, Mankind...
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calling them genres is a bit of a stretch, but they are already faded into history. these labels aren't necessarily for the labels and music industry, in fact they kinda evolved in an anti-establishment ideal..
street punk came out of the growing trendiness and mainstream identity of punk in the late 70s/early 80s.
crust/anarcho just evolved out of that same vibe, but as street punk became as popular and watered down as the 70s bands had become, it was necessary for the underground scene to evolve into something heavier, angrier.. hence anarcho/crust scene.
these labels describe various 'scenes' in punk history, not necessarily genres of music. In fact, most people get confused in trying to label these bands.. aus rotten and casualties are called 'street' by a lot of folks including Amazon and Wiki, but they are clearly crust bands compared to more accepted 'street' bands.
punk is an interesting underground culture which was greatly exploited by the mainstream, driving the sincere punks underground because after all, how could anti-establishment youth become the establishment (ie, mainstream?) how could you hear songs about destroying the system on the radio? how could you buy t-shirts for these bands at the mall?
when you can by punk bands shirt at Hot-Topic, they have gotten to big and its time to dig deeper underground to find some authenticity (ie, what happened with the Casualities when they went Warped Tour big
and killed it). Its like what happened to RATM. The first album was unsigned, and it has edge and fierceness, speaks the truth in the lyrics, but when it blew up like Smells Like Teen Spirit, fucking they lost all their credentials, all their authenticity, and the lyrical content became watered down.
Today gutter punk has evolved out of crust, originally gutter punks were just homeless punks not affiliated with any scene, but as the scenes got big, punks looking to get out of the mainstream went gutter, and now it is becoming its own distinct sub-genre within chaos punk.
but you are absolutely right, this is dying genre (anarcho/chaos) which peaked from 85-99, and is rapid decline. these bands can only keep it up for so long, after all it is the nature of such fiercely anti-establishment bands to break apart, this music is unstable by nature.