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I've only heard a little bit by them.
I just got tired of my little pothead brother saying "punk and post-punk blows, you should listen to some hardcore like Norma Jean and Leftover Crack man." Then he'd go hang out with a bunch of kids who I to this day cannot tell apart because everyone dresses and does their hair the same.
I bought him Black Dots last Christmas so he'd know what real hardcore was. He stopped listening to it fairly quickly, and now it is a member of my collection. His loss.
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