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Old 04.05.2006, 03:43 AM   #22
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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
well i think rationalism has its roots in the past but even the greeks, who supposedly started the reason racket, were deeply embedded in religion. socrates was killed for corrupting young people and offending the gods or something of that sort--the gods! aristotle is perhaps the first person to attempt to detach reason from religion..


yes and no. ofcourse the greeks used reason - reading one page off aristotle proves that-, but above reason, above the gods, they put the Ananke (Necessity), mother of the fates. they viewed that the world is a cosmos, an organised-totality; within this organised totality gods express their power, and mortals use logos; but what holds this totality of beings as whole is chaos, meaning not confusion but chasm, clift, gap.

Aristotle comes after the greek ''Enlightment''. He used a good two centuries of intense philosophising and intense political changes, and makes the sweetest philosophy sofar (imho). the Sophists -say Protagoras- are propably the first ones to use reason in a modern way.


We can either view Enlightment as a specific period in human history/philosophy, OR -using the definition i mentioned above or something better- think that there's Enlightment wherever and whenever men and women exit from their self-imposed immatury and use reason.
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