h8kurdt-- thanks man, most enlightening info. i'm new at this prem stuff and this helps understand the current dramas.
on a marginally related note, i really like dortmund because they kind of do it all-- touching/possession game (but very fast), parking the bus and counterattacking, long balls-- i can't believe the way weidenfeller didn't stop that free kick, aghhh. they would have beaten real madrid twice!!!
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