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Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins
I'd place their overall output a notch above similar bands. Apparently they're really good live.
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their live shows were a hundred times better than their recorded material. i'm not sure about now, but 8-10 years ago...so good.
i think they went downhill after they signed to epitaph. not saying because they signed to the label, but they tried to get more radio friendly after they did. i bought the first epitaph record the day it came out and was so disappointed by it.