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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i like bernie, but his supporters tactics are a fucking awful form of scorched earth.
they’d rather see trump win again than a moderate.
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Funny since the democratic establishment acts like they'd rather have Trump than Bernie. Control of the party seems more important to them than winning.
And if your argument is "our focus should be beating Trump" then you should be supporting Bernie and chiding all these other candidates who couldn't possibly win against Trump. Like, please tell me how Pete, Warren or Biden have a path open to beat Trump? They don't, it will be Hillary all over again.
Bernie is a) anti-establishment b) can refute any points Trump makes about the economy and social issues c) mobilise and excite people to get out and vote d) has very little in the way of oppositional research against him compared to everyone else
It's not that Bernie supporters want Trump to win but that they're sick of fake politicians pandering to them while their lives continue to exist in a perpetual state of malaise. Also its insane to say they'd rather Trump won than a moderate when they held their noses and voted for Hillary in 2016 to stop Trump (more Bernie supporters supported Hillary than Hillary supporters supported Obama btw... not to mention that there are people out there who would flip from Trump to Bernie quite easily because its not about ideology to them).
But yes, they won't hold their noses this time and vote for Pete or Biden or whoever. Why would they? The dem party aren't automatically entitled to your vote if you don't like Trump. Western politics has been "you have to vote for the lesser evil" for decades and if not, you can fuck off and stay outside the political mainstream. Progressives don't owe the democratic party anything when they're constantly ignored and denigrated.
So the fact a huge chunk of the party's base won't vote for anyone but Bernie means you HAVE to go with Bernie to ensure turnout (not to mention the large portion of non-voters Bernie brings out). After all, our biggest concern should be beating Trump, right?