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Originally Posted by touch me i'm sick
i can't decide whether i'm atheist or agnostic
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Just decide whether you're a sheep or a human with a will & a mind and you should be okay.
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Originally Posted by lunberg
I find it suspect when people bring physics into it...
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It's Lundeberg (Helen) or Ljungberg (Freddie), for one thing & something tells me you'll end up screaming at the wall like Camus. Find it "suspect" all you want, but the facts are that the core truths of physics aren't really theoretical, & although quantum physics raises more questions than answers in some regards, Relativity proves God's existence in many ways.
When Newton first formulated his world-changing laws of motion ushering in the Industrial Revolution, Science felt like it had Nature licked. Nietzsche echoed that "God is Dead." Then a British geologist named John Michell came along about a century later & postulated black holes & then in the early 20th century came the absolutely stunning revolutions in our approach with Einstein who formulated Natural Laws that, unlike Newton's, also worked in a vacuum
& can be applied everywhere throughout the universe. But the theories also raised many questions again. From his work, Schwartzchild & Bohr & many others went on to more wondrous discoveries, but no one has ever or will ever stumble upon a unified theory that unites Einstein's Gravity with the other forces like electromagnetism & the strong & weak nuclear force. Gravitrons seem to be the area right now where we are slowly learning more; in string theory, an extra dimension keeps getting tacked on every few years or so. So, you see, it turned out that nature will never be licked, cannot be licked. The Earth & the Heavens are not a machine to be tinkered with, but rather a Living System & God was never dead. This truth, that God is easier to behold now due to modern physics than ever before in history, is quite ironic considering the general level of consciousness & the intelligence of the average person on the planet and perhaps one fine day, the political philosophers will pay for their crimes.
The future of the Earth depends on many things, but perhaps most chiefly, the quality of our educations will play the most important role.