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Originally Posted by Daycare Nation
You must have missed my comment above when I likened them to heavy metal guitar virtuosos with technical ability but no real substance. Obviously, they are good musicians--I just think they are not doing anything worthwhile.
I hope I never acquire "objective listening skills." That sounds about as fun as algebra.
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I did see that, and I disagree with that assessment as well. They definitely display musical prowess, but I see what they have done (and the attitude they have done it with) as taking the slickness and sterility OUT of that style of playing, keeping it visceral and raw. To compare them to the likes of Satriani or Vai only shows how much you missed the point. So does lumping them in with "noise" bands, for that matter.
By "objective listening skills," I meant having the presence of mind to give people their due. They have shown discipline and determination well beyond most of their peers, and have been lauded by a fanbase that normally shuns pure displays of virtuosity. Whether you care for the music or not, it IS valid and it IS worthwhile. In this regard, "sucky" is hardly the right adjective. I hate a lot of peoples' music, but they do not all "suck" and they are not all doing music that is "not worthwhile."
Yeesh.