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Originally Posted by Keeping It Gimple

this

some - i say some - good bands. a handful of great bands and then mbv in a whole nother league

rest is suck

that's because with a good band you hear past the noisy layer and still have a good song / or the noise is essential to it as to be inseparable

otherwise the noise is just frosting on a turd

im also having problems with the nomenclature btw. what is/is not shoegaze vs "dreampop". seems all like a british invention (i.e., beyond my context).

e.g. i hate calling yo la tengo "shoegaze". yo la tengo can play anything, and quite enthusiastically to boot. having an element of noise does not subordinate them to a ... period/fashion/region.