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I have to say again that I don´t believe that there was any commercial plannings when SY made Rather Ripped. It doesn´t just make sense to me (Thurston and co thinking "isn´t it great to have a hit before we leave Geffen" hah). I think they just had a pop period then (I think Thurston´s solo Trees Under have lots in common with Rather Ripped). But even if they had had commercial plannings, that doesn´t bother me, because I think they succeed to make a great album. I claim that I can hear if music is planned, because there was then no real feelings (as there wasn´t mostly in today´s music). But of course I made mistakes also.
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