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Originally Posted by k-krack
i think saying Boredoms is a tad unfair, cos Boredoms owe a whooole lot to SY, and quite possibly we may never have even heard of them if it werent for SY introducing them to the west.
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true but sy also have their influences, it's not like they came out of the blue sounding like that. it's like invalidating sy by saying that teenage jesus and the jerks, dna, mars, glenn branca, gang of four, velvet underground, les rallizes denudes, wire, the stooges, patti smith, p.i.l., talking heads, black flag, sun ra, joni mitchell, the fall, etc etc etc had an impact on sonic youth therefore they are not original.
the boredoms took the influence of american and british hardcore and post hardcore, mixed it with the most abrassive stream of 70's prog rock and used the nascent japanese underground sounds to create something completely different, and they were so willing to go as far as they could to the point of rejecting song structures and doing something new.
sy did something similar and yes, they are incredibly important, but they didn't create rock, they just distilled it into something fresh and amazing and has been mutating for the past 25 years.