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Originally Posted by kingcoffee
Now I believe that most of the bands that take direct influence from SY are more underground bands that will not amount to much popularity. It's just that way. But it doesn't mean that the band doesn't have far reaching influence. They tour the world. They have sold a decent amount of records considering the type of music they play. Most people just swallow the lame, watered-down, mass-marketed pop jism, and so they don't understand what SY is doing or where they come from artistically, so they're automatically out of the fold. 80-95% of people will never get SY. They just can't comprehend it. They come from a different musical culture and they just don't get it! But I know that although SY may not be nearly as popular as some of the bands that they directly and indirectly influence, they at least have still reached out to a significant minority of people, and that's ok by me. If you can reach just one person with good rock and roll, then you've accomplished something.
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I don't think you have a clear understanding of what pop culture is, so why are you even debating it?
Nobody is discrediting SY's influence on underground or even mainstream bands. Nobody. What we are talking about is pure simple pop culture, things like Anna Nicole Smith, Madonna, 50 Cent, Ashley/Jessica Simpson, MTV, iPods, things like that.
Sorry, but Sonic Youth does not belong in that group of popular culture.
Maybe you had a couple of "hip" teachers, nobody's debating that either. What we are trying to tell you is that sonic youth has not reached to the level of popularity of popular culture to the point where people are emulating, dressing, stylizing, imitating Sonic Youth.
Just be glad that Sonic Youth is not relevant to pop culture. If you didn't know, pop culture is direct result of big business and marketing of young culture for the sake of big dollar.