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Originally Posted by phoenix

I also don't agree that 'the only way to survive' is to kill stuff.

except for the inorganic matter you consume (e.g., salt), and symbiotic microbes like those in yogurt, everything else we eat was once alive-- dead carrots, dead soybeans, dead almonds, dead seaweed, dead lettuce, dead rice, all dead, dead, dead.

not only that, but agriculture itself is the cause of untold carnage in the animal world.

but of course people conveniently would like to forget that so that they keep inhabiting their fantasyland where they are spiritually "clean".