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I think the discontinuity of the free-er side of things often makes it a great deal more demanding (/unlistenable) than noise 'proper'. I'm entirely certain that at least some noise should aspire to being unbearable. Not Japanese, but one of the most exciting/ queasy bands out there are Borbetomagus. Unlike a lot of bands, they really are very difficult to listen to (for me) but well worth persevering (hello masochism).
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