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Old 01.06.2013, 05:17 PM   #66
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Originally Posted by tw2113
I think the federal government has the spending problem, not the middle class. I honestly think we need to overhaul our foreign policy and get the federal government to start being frugal and cut wasteful spending.

Couldn't agree more, but don't let those fucking supposed "fiscal conservatives" fool you, theirs is not a financial agenda, it is a "free-market capitalist" ideological agenda to gut the public system and social safety net in the name of so-called meritocracy. Responsibly cutting spending would be to reform the tax system to remove fringe benefits and perks for the wealthy who realistically don't need them, while attacking corruption and fraud within the system. The budget hawks aren't tackling fraud or corruption in any way, they insistently propose bills and legislation to gut public services. Could social security be more efficient? Of course. However that is not exactly what "conservatives" ever proposed. Further, we have a shit load of waste in military spending, but nobody on either party has the balls to cut that either. We need to have spending cuts for sure, but just not any of the kinds which have been proposed the past two or three years. Cut the fat, cut the waste, but don't cut what is essential. Again, America will find out the hard way just how much taking care of their elder relatives, the sickly, the disabled, and of course public infrastructure and education of our children actually costs if we all pay up front like some Libertarian fantasy. Its all in or all out. I say everyone who wants to collect benefits and services from the government should put up or shut up. If fiscal conservatives don't want government spending, start with themselves and reject the Medicare their elderly parents or even themselves may be collecting, stop taking all the tax breaks (including those for donations to non-profit conservative think tanks and lobbyist, that shit is like Shakespearean irony yo!) and loop holes which are a form of government spending, and put your kids or grandchildren in private secondary schools and private colleges (and don't even bother to fill out a FAFSA form you free-riding cheapskates)

 
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