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Old 11.13.2016, 03:14 PM   #1753
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Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
OK, so I may well be a political figure from a century ago (that being an Old-Timey Milwaukee Kraut Socialist), yet, when it comes to world without borders, unless accomplished under proper Proletarian leadership, that strikes me as being the long-time goal of the capitalist class of PIGS!!!. which leads me to love this, the former National Anthem of the USA:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-gt3vaae4g
a century ago your ancestors were immigrating by the millions without border control and were subjected to the same vilification as mexicans and muslims today though. ethnic/linguistic/religious etc. in other words, your great-great-grandpappy would be a syrian today.

check this fun stuff, among many others

http://www.ushistory.org/us/25f.asp (sorry for the very basic text, i was looking by one from pew research but i've lost it. let this just be a reminder of history though)

as for immigrant labor used by capital to undercut domestic wages-- there hasn't been a time when it hasn't happened. look at how the railroad was built.

but anyway, this is not to say that i'm for the exploitation of workers or for lawlessness or for anarchy-- but let's start seeing things from the point of view that we all came out of africa and migration has always been a fact of life. it's best to regulate and normalize and manage rationally than to pretend it can be stopped or assume that it's good to stop it. a free market of matter and energy and information only makes sense with a free market of labor as well. let the talent and the muscle go where it's most needed, but let's do it within a frame of justice and fairness.

besides, the future of the internet might make traveling moot. there's this really cool low-budget scifi movie i forget teh name, but it shows mexican workers in the border operating construction robots in the us while they fry their brains with the interface. what's the name of it... i'll post if i remember
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