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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Yeah, but all the stuff that you mentioned is:
- From people who turned noise into an art form, complete with its own aesthetics. Note that all the musicians that you have mentioned happen to be Japanese, who remain the true masters in this field.
- Sonic Youth get tagged as noise rock all the time, and for a reason too, but I doubt that they would have been able to make the records that they have made if noise was the sole influence on their music.
- Not exactly everyone who listens to free jazz is automatically into noise music. There's noise in free jazz but it's generally created by people who can also play conventionally, as well as non-conventionally, thus giving the listeners much less of a hard time trying to work out why someone is (non)playing like that.
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1) i gave the most famous examples of harsh noise there which happens to be by pioneers of the sound which are japanese. and yes, they are some of the best noisers ever, but it's not the end all be all of noise. i could definitely say lasse marhaug (although his stuff is all over the place) or perhaps leslie keffer, fe-mail or metek.
2) yes, but that's sonic youth and we're discussing noise, not them. i totally agree on this point, though.
3) you misinterpreted the "most people begin listening to..." thing i typed, i meant "most people WHO GET INTO NOISE begin listening to dissonant rock or free jazz...". of course it's not a rule.