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if yr searching for sunshiney-feel-good, the lips might be the way to go.
however, if yr interested in something more intense, the surfers are the clear choice.
and yes, the lips albums are more polished and far more critically acclaimed than anything the surfers have obtained; I use neither of these things to qualify what's good.
mostly, I just have a gorilla-sized grudge on my back that the lip's watered-down music can't shake. however, there was a time in recent memory, when they meant the world to me.
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