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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
yeah yeah. i just wanted to make it clear that just because we're in agreement about the public confessional i wasn't aligning myself with your opinion of aa/na
first of all because i have no experience of them. second, because the perfect is the enemy of the good and somebody may want to try it and who am i to say?
also because it's clear to us they're not the same thing, but other people might conflate them from our discussion.
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Sure sure, I gotcha. Sorry for digressing.
My issue is mostly with "institution" of rehab and "recovery," and the fact that those institutions use NA/AA as a central bit of connecting tissue between one fraudulent part of their schemes and another (never send a relative to "sober housing" for the love of god. Never.) I'm sure NA/AA in their own can be helpful for a lot of folks. I just happen to come from an area with astronomical overdose and abuse rates, so naturally I've seen friends and family members go through the system, and "rehab" is a sordid and predatory industry in my opinion. What these people need is help that, like, doesn't come in the form of seclusion and self-deception, and doesn't feed off of the eventual, inevitable relapse that comes from 98% of addicts.
Insurance companies and doctors are very much to blame in my opinion as well.
ANYHOO...