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Originally Posted by AssBlaster
Which is exactly why Thurston sings "It's the song I hate" he's referring to the song "Youth Against Facism" itself. Pretty Ironic, eh?
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Yeah, I always saw a lot of ambiguity in Youth Against Fascism. Thurston sings a lot of really stereotypical radical-left wing complaints/bitchings that I think can be takin' either genuinely or sarcastically. The song he hates can either be interpreted as the fascism or the radicalism.
When I first heard it oh so many years ago I thought he was straight up making fun of people who write super-protest song-shit without intelligently backing up their opinions or looking into the more subtle intricacies of politics. I mean we know Thurston is on the Left and against uptight war-mongering conservatism, but Sonic Youth never really seemed to put that into any of their music as a straight up black and white message. I think Thurston probably shared some of the opinions he was singing while simultaneosly singing them in a real ironic crass way and then went on to say "Its the song I hate."
I also seem to remember reading in the Confusion is Next biography that while in the studio Thurston Moore Just started playing Youth Against Fascism with the band before it was a finished song that had lyrics and just singing "I hate this song/It's the song I hate..." over and over again. That might mean that Thurston might have originally just not have been a big fan of the song the band had written. If you listen to the demo on the reissue, I think you can tell the song was just a big wild Jam originally (which kicks ass and is intense as shit) and maybe Thurston didn't think much of it himself.
Well, anyway, I think its an awesome song that's pretty wildly ironic and shows off a political sonic youth with a more ambiguous touch before they became card-carrying George W. Bush haters who spew the anti-George Bush truth in the very straight-forward vehement way that most George Bush-haters do, and often sound real whiny and annoying (and kind of like the people Thurston makes fun of on Youth Against Fascism... hey maybe why people take it literally.)
Although, I guess, Peace Attack and Do You Believe in Rapture the most recent politically-influenced Sonic Youth songs are still more subtle than the average bitching.
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