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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
if there is one thing Malcolm and Vivienne westwood did is really define PUNK visually. for good or ill.
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I suppose the criticism there is that they basically commodified it. The thing is, I really don't think that hurt anything. 'Underground' punk was still able to survive in the background while more commercial genres like heavy metal, that were exposed to the more commercial end of punk, also made quite positive efforts to rethink themselves in response, hence the emergence of bands like Iron Maiden and the whole NWOBHM thing in general. MacLaren was a spark for some very talented people like Lydon and Westwood who, had they not made the connection, I suspect may not have amounted to all that much in comparison. Even if the full extent of their talent never really came through until after they'd parted company with McLaren.