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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Fair enough, but isn't this just becoming an argument about the value of philosophy itself, rather than helping me understand a certain branch of it?
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yes, i'm not quite helping you
i have to put brain energy into these branches of philosophy to give my thoughts around it
instead of telling my perspective of the value of philosophy itself
it's true
maybe i blow myself a bit up here in your thread
alot of branches in the realism
the thing that plato sez about idea's in the ideaworld are (or can) realer then material objects
made me think of lourdes, that pilgrimage cave in france
so a woman sees the holyvirgin maria in a cave
millions of people come to that cave where maria was seen or something
that is an good example of what plato is saying
the idea that maria was there is stronger then the reality that you are looking at a cave
speculative realism? i coudn't find much about that