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Originally Posted by Severian
I don't think of the Velvet Underground as punk. Pre-punk? Proto-punk? Sure. But for me "Punk" started with Raw Power. And I think plenty of bands have added to it, not the least of which is Sonic Youth. Also: Wire, the Cramps, Suicide, The Ramones, Joy Division, Fugazi, and tons of other bands with sounds as varied as the colors of the rainbow.
But I do see your point.
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To me punk started in Eddie Cochranīs Summertime Blues & Nervous Breakdown. To me Sonics were first punk band. And Yes, almost all those bands you mentioned are really great and I am glad they have existed and made great music. But I donīt think they add really nothing more what VU, Stooges, 13th Floor Elevators etc. have already done. I think the great invention in end of seventies were bands like Birthday Party, the Pop Group & of course Minutemen, who have a great idea to mix punk & Beefheart.