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Originally Posted by dead_battery
ok maybe you didnt edit your post suchfriends, the two identical ones with time gaps between them made me suspicious, plus you've done it before.
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Nope. Never on any posts in SYG in my twelve years posting here have I edited away anything to "keep it secret".. I have edited things for clarification or because I was wrong but I have NEVER tried to hide or deny it. What else is the edit feature for? Indeed you might want to consider it sometime
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there are posts that you didnt quote that make it clear whose side you're on. i apologise for the implication.
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I SINCERELY APPRECIATE this. RESPECT to you my brother!!
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rather than patronise me with another "but how do you know?" condescension you might answer how you weigh the damage to an innocent persons life and career against the false claims of someone who could have proved them initially if they were in fact true but deliberately chose not to.
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Well, indeed this is a very real risk, in my occupation this is always a real and present threat (false accusations).. the reality is you have to defend yourself in the most positive and accurate way. Attacking the character of the accuser likely will only in long run create sympathy for them. Stick to the FACTS that are demonstratable with substantive evidence. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO POSSIBLY WIN THE "COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION"
I didn't address it because frankly we don't know yet. All we know is there are accusations. We know Gira hasn't denied a sexual encounter. We will have to wait and see now won't we which has been my point the entire time. IF Gira proves to be innocent, then he will have some serious damage control and I would obviously be his biggest defender!
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what's disturbing is that it's clear that i am despised for pointing out that grimms allegations are false. apparently a persons career and reputation are fair game for destruction for the sake of a persecutory victim narrative about rape that provides easy think emotional responses and sensations of self righteousness. grimm is lying and not admitting it, and only one news organization is reporting the other side of the story. the damage has been done to gira who is ironically a rape victim himself, although he has the misfortune of being male and therefore evil.
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No, people were upset, myself included, about the insensitivity and brashness of your remarks and approach. Your tone now is much more diplomatic and appreciable.
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clearly there is something very wrong with peoples reactions to her smear campaign. i wonder how many in this thread would react if the allegations were made against them or a friend of theirs? if they could afford to, would they go the futile route of libel for the sake of clearing their name, spending thousands upon thousands on an unprovable case? i doubt it. i doubt they wouldn't try and defend themselves either.
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Until the facts are truly presented, we don't know if its a smear campaign at all. Its an opinion you are free to have, but its one not yet supported by any evidence or the lack there of.
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grimm is refusing to admit her lies and is claiming persecution on all sides and hiding under the excuse of mental illness. what's certain is that she won't stop this behaviour because it's working to get her attention. i suspect she'll go too far eventually.
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We don't know they are lies yet. It is yet to be determined.