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atari and who ever else might be interested here are some books you guys might like
noise water meat
four musical minimalists
illegal harmonies
on the other point perhaps some people don't have the facility to talk about music in the way some would like, however this does not make their opinions any more or less valid, professioanlism doesn't count for shit unless people are asking for advice, which people do on this board and it is great that others can impart knowledge. on the otherside of the knife it does annoy me when people say stuff is shit when they don't like it, they could just say they don't like it, for example the tool threads, some say tool are shit and boring... now technicially tool are definately not shit but people are allowed to find them boring and not like it.
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