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Originally Posted by This Is Not Here

To quote (ahem!) Roger Waters "thats like saying give a man Les Paul and he becomes Eric Clapton!". Well, not quite that extreme obviously, but to get to Eric Clapton standard on guitar it takes an incredible amount of effort. Yes people are not exactly alike, and it may take some people beyond their lifetime to get to Eric Clapton standard, but most people after many years of total dedication to music and their instrument could give Clapton a run for his money. They'd be getting there exactly the same way Clapton did, by playing relentlessly. But maybe the Clapton example hints more of issues of skill rather than creativity, not that he wasn't creative, but his total mastery of his instrument often overshadows the writing of it. But Mr. Waters is a good example of picking up the latter in my opinion, at the beggining of his stint in a rock band he couldn't even tune his damned bass, let alone write music. But after 30 years in the music industry by the end of his stint in PF he had written some of the most beloved tunes in classic rock. The Human League, started off as a self-proclaimed non-talent group, but after engrossing themselves in the music industry wrote some of the most recogniseable and sucessful pop songs of the 80s, as cringe-worthy as they may be. Essentially creation in any form and the output for it CAN be learnt, the assertion that some people just aren't creative is absurd. And 'talent', if it exists, can't be measured, and therefore is totally subjective. The same gig where, in your eyes, an untalented uncreative douchbag performs someone else could leave proclaiming him a genius, and vica versa.

do you think if you played as much football when you were a kid as david beckham did you would be on your way to captaining england now?