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Old 10.04.2013, 11:58 AM   #13
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funny thing, what they're saying-- it's not even "socialism". it's a mandate that everyone purchases PRIVATE insurance so that people do not resort to the emergency room at the last minute and so that hospitals do not get stuck with an unpaid tab at the end (because per that commie ronald reagan's law emergency rooms must provide care to whoever requests it regardless of their ability to pay).

the ACA is not a socialist plan, it's basically a mandate for personal responsibility within a private market, i.e., a "conservative" thing, and as such it was proposed by nixon and implemented by romney, but now that a black kenyan muslim signed it it's somehow highly unacceptable and a scandal. pure bullshit politicking and manipulation.

anyway, yeah.

The "socialist" aspect which the "Republicans" are fighting mad about are the subsidies and medicare expansions that are a part of the Affordable Care Act, not just the mandate itself. Fighting against the mandate makes them sound like some kind of libertarian jihadists, a superhero for the tea party folks, but the reality is their ideological beef lies more so with the subsidies (which they only seem to believe should benefit military contractors, major banks, and expansive multi-national corporations) and medicare (which they think is some kind of hand out, those mercurially cruel bastards!)...

Its simple math. Everyone in the pool or the rates go up for everybody who is already in, and since everybody can't afford to get into the pool, Uncle Sam has to do the right thing and subsidize the price. The scandal is that if it were outright socialized medicine it just might be both (a) fairer and (b) cheaper.
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