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What the fuck is all of this Grinderman sounds like Birthday Party shit. Just a simple NO NO NO! Listen again. I've seen BP and NC and the Bad Seeds and Grinderman and they are all completely different. The Birthday Party were of a time and place and simply a wonderful time in Australian music with other great acts like the Saints and the Scientists. Grinderman are good I go and see them (last week actually) and they are good live but not great. I just don't get people saying that BP and GM are the same.
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