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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

I don't want that either. Speaking of loaded terms, I know "democratic socialism" is one of them, but regardless of how they label themselves that is not what Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez are actually proposing.

bernie actually wants state ownership of the healthcare sector, and his reply to how he's going to accomplish that with everything it entails is "we're going to have a movement..." by which i assume it's going to be marches and street protests and songs with fists raised.

i'm sorry, no, no thanks, internationale. with obamacare we're closer to the swiss model than to anything else out there. improvement is within reach.

except that unlike switzerland, in size and structure we're closer to the entire european union. the european union doesn't have brussels-owned healthcare for all member countries.

benie offers pie in the sky.

i'll take a public option though. a public option (not a mandate) is doable.

but that can also be done at the state and local level, btw.