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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
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you gots to MASTER the rules before you can break them with interesting results.
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Do you mean in the context of free jazz or in general? I think free jazz (and free improv) definitely require a great deal of dexterity to produce good stuff; I think they require a great deal of affection and taste as well. I don't know how many of you have heard Ayler's Music is the healing force... but it's utterly dogshit; the man made 2 of my favourite jazz albums (Spirits/ Bells) but completely lost it on that one (for me).
More generally, there's loads of examples of not necessarily tutored musicians making amazing music. Nihilist Spasm Band, the Shaggs, the A Band (fnar) or whoever.