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the band is pretty different now, they have John Shaw of Apostasy Records playing bass(also a member of Son of Earth which also includes Matt Krefting who has a solo album on ecstatic Peace!) which has "tighten things up abit", Elisa actually plays riffs and tunes her guitar, Pete has a cool synth and is a mad man on drums, there good i still like them in a different way as opposed to their early raw improv sloppy noise routine... they are still on drag city.
that reminds me about the pedals i need to make for them.
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