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!@#$%! · 02.17.2020, 03:09 PM

man, you clearly know nothing about the usa healthcare system. the poor have no problem getting healthcare: they get medicaid!

the ones who get reamed in the current system are the middle class, who make too much to get medicaid and in some cases too little to afford the premiums and deductibles and copays, and might not get health insurance at work. also people who make too much for obamacare subsidies and must pay out of pocket,

the REAL problem is rampant cost increase, which is a problem for EVERYONE, and yes, single payer could be very effective at addressing, but it would require a major readjustment of the economy and meet enormous resistance in the legislature and the courts. even AOC made the case that likely it won’t happen—man, she’s so much better than the fanatic berniebros at making sense.

building on obamacare and expanding medicare for those who want it is achievable, but i think the moderates have a better way to appeal to a larger constituency and build consensus to achieve it. we can discuss this instead of science fiction bullcaca about false premises.

also, if you’re for bernie on this one, why aren’t you for warren too?

02.17.2020, 03:09 PM	#88
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,467	man, you clearly know nothing about the usa healthcare system. the poor have no problem getting healthcare: they get medicaid! the ones who get reamed in the current system are the middle class, who make too much to get medicaid and in some cases too little to afford the premiums and deductibles and copays, and might not get health insurance at work. also people who make too much for obamacare subsidies and must pay out of pocket, the REAL problem is rampant cost increase, which is a problem for EVERYONE, and yes, single payer could be very effective at addressing, but it would require a major readjustment of the economy and meet enormous resistance in the legislature and the courts. even AOC made the case that likely it won’t happen—man, she’s so much better than the fanatic berniebros at making sense. building on obamacare and expanding medicare for those who want it is achievable, but i think the moderates have a better way to appeal to a larger constituency and build consensus to achieve it. we can discuss this instead of science fiction bullcaca about false premises. also, if you’re for bernie on this one, why aren’t you for warren too?
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