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Old 05.09.2006, 07:49 PM   #20
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hopefully Rhys won't mind, but here is what Plato transcribed Socrates as saying before he was to drink the hemlock & be sentenced to death for "undermining the gods of the state" & for "corrupting the youth of Athens".

Now as you see there has come upon me that which may be thought, and is generally believed to be, the last and worst evil. But the oracle* made no sign of opposition . . . I regard this as a proof that what has happened to me is a good, and that those of use who think that death is an evil are in error . . . . Let us reflect in another way, and we shall see that there is great reason to hope that death is a good, for one of two things:--either death is a state of nothingness and utter unconsciousness, or, as men say, there is a change and migration of the soul from this world to another. Now if you suppose that there is no consciousness, but a sleep like the sleep of him who is undisturbed even by the sight of dreams, death will be an unspeakable gain. . . . Now if death is like this, I say that to die is gain; for eternity is then only a single night. But if death is a journey to another place, and there, as men say, all the dead are, what good, O my friends and judges, can be greater than this? . . . What would not a man give if he might converse with Orpheus and Musaeus and Hesiod and Homer? Nay, if this be true, let me die again and again. . . . Above all, I shall be able to continue my search into true and false knowledge; as in this world, so also in that; I shall find out who is wise, and who pretends to be wise, and is not. . . . The hour of departure has arrived, and we go our ways--I to die, and you to live. Which is better, God only knows.

*the Oracle at Delphi which many scholars believe was simply using the I-Ching
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