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Old 08.04.2010, 06:19 PM   #120
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Originally Posted by FreshChops
so, there's "numbers" for everything:

you can state numbers on deaths from food poisoning or adverse reactions to prescriptions, etc....

the coalition to stop gun violence needs to focus on a lot more than removing guns.... responsible parenting, where's that fall into the equation? Don't you think if they started charging parents with their kids gun crimes, parents would leave their own foggy minded worlds long enough to intervene with the kids activities and responsibilities.

So 80 people die from gun violence? Sounds scary but lets look at the big picture... how many people are dying every minute from medical malpractice (something that can be avoided)? Of these gun death figures, can the be assured that if there are no guns these murders or deaths aren't going to occur either way.

and all in all, aside from bitching, what is your solution.... they round up every legally owned gun in the country?

My points you have been ignoring:

- The stats that are relevant to this discussion are the ones that point out how people have MORE chances of getting hurt than they do of defending themselves when they have a gun.

- How the gun industry is the same one that makes the guns criminals use.

- How you pay taxes for things like the police, but then you say the government doesn't have to protect citizens.

- On suicide: you will say people who want to commit suicide can do that in many ways, true. The same goes for murder. But when someone has a powerful weapon that can do much damage in less than a second, there's no time to think or to defend yourself: it's done, and it happens more often than it does when people don't have guns and the consequences are worse. That goes for suicide, passionate crimes, anger etc.

- I don't have stats on this, but I'm quite sure most people killed with guns are not expecting it, so it wouldn't matter if they had one or not.
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