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Old 07.21.2018, 07:52 AM   #4275
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While there are some good points in there, I'm ultimately calling bullshit. If Trump had given Putin a violent tongue-lashing, you'd be praising him for being tough.

(Although to be fair, the left would be condemning him for provoking a fight.)

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Mueller's probe has led to indictments. People broke the law. Anyone who authentically cares about "law and order" should be pleased so far.

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To say the US is even partly responsible for being attacked by Russia is fucked.

It's not a perfect analogy because no one died from Russia's attack, but it's almost as if FDR had said that the US should've been better prepared before Pearl Harbor, so both sides bear responsibility. WTF?

The moral equivalency is revolting.

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The difference between Russia and N Korea is that N Korea is mostly isolated from the rest of the world, whereas Russia has its tentacles all over. The ultimate (and nearly impossible) goal in N Korea is to get them to be a sane actor on the world stage.

I'm not sure what Trump's goal is with Russia. Get them to change, or join them as they are? Russia has committed cyber attacks against many countries, has invaded territories and otherwise behaves as if they want to take over Europe. At least.

So why cozy up? So we can trade? To avoid a nuclear war?

Please. I'm sure Neville Chamberlain wanted to avoid war by cozying up to Hitler. See how that worked out.

Btw, you skipped the part in Helsinki where Trump spent more time discussing Hillary's servers (??) than Russian interference in our elections (Which he sometimes admits happens, always immediately followed by "But it could've been anyone.") That's fucked and there's no way to spin it.

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Liberals are obnoxious know-it-alls who don't respect anyone else's values.

Trump is a worthless sack of shit who is a danger to the entire world.

Both things can be true, although one is more consequential than the other.
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