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Originally Posted by Genteel Death
It doesn't have anything to do with XIU XIU, which I don't care for either way, but I'd be interested to know what you think of how minimalistic no wave, punk or whatever seems to have reached a cul de sac in terms of melodic creativity. Personally I tend to think that the temple of DIY struggles more than ever these days.
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It's difficult to say. I don't listen to enough of it to have a serious opinion. When I do, I find very little of interest - there's rarely much in the way of melody, and rarely much in the way of
anything. In terms of melodic creativity, I tend to think that pop has definitely done it better for a long time. That's not to say that JLS aren't utterly shite (they are), but something like the chorus to
this is better than anything I've heard from the guitar-ish underground in the last 5 years. Having said that, I do think that bands like Xinlisupreme (remember them?) or
this guy (a mate of mine) can do very simple and good melodies while ostensibly making a cuntload of racket.
But, as you know, I listen to a lot of Happy Hardcore, and I can hardly defend that on any level except I like it and it's fast. So I wouldn't take any notice of my opinions, because I'd never expect to be consistent. I've been listening to a lot of Helmut Lachenmann lately, and he's
incredibly good at dropping a melody in that's achingly simple and massively unexpected. Ligeti to.
I don't know. Whatever the answer is, it's not Pavement (unless the question is 'who are shit?')