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Originally Posted by Derek

And there's a big problem with you turning into an economist wonk whenever there is an ideological or class argument. Healthcare is a human right and M4A is completely inclusive. When the US spends trillions on war (which both parties vote for), the question is never "durr how do we pay for it tho". The question is never "how do we pay for it" for many destructive things embedded into the US political system. Yet it's the first question when it comes to healthcare? A thing that determines the general wellbeing of a nation? You'll never convince me otherwise, sorry.

you're like a political astronomer, looking at us through your telescope trying to figure out what the fuck is happening here and why we can't get our shit together.

there are FIFTY STATES, each with 2 senators. wyoming has the same number of senators as california.

the first thing the 2 wyoming senators are gonna ask, representing, oh, 500,000 folks?, is "how are we gonna pay for it?" and neutralize the 2 california senators representing, hm, 40 million. and fuck us.

ALL POLITICS IS LOCAL. but have fun playing with your toy telescope.