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Originally Posted by pbradley
Well, yes, but if you want to distinguish Metallica from Melvins, you're going to need be a bit more exact than the audience as, in this case, "indie kid" is obscure to the point of phantasmic. This is why I used that grotesque phrase which, in the way I am thinking of it, puts the audience in a post-2000 confluence of transmutable ethics and aesthetics. To extend it before then would require a terminal dose of retrospective plying and Melvins certainly predate it. Are there genuine, subtle differences between Metalllica and Melvins that make the latter any less legitimate? I just get the sense that this typically spins out of relevance to be saying that indie kids are shittier than metal kids so the Melvins are shittier than Metallica, all while pointing at unsubstantiated continuity of subtleties. I don't think there is any saving grave evidence there within the subtleties to provide a narrative of music quality that makes Melvins necessarily shit. It begins with first impressions.
I'm sorry, I'm taking this too far. I just haven't thought about the Melvins, or even the quality of any music, in such a long time that I'm reopening my own reservations. I'm thinking of deleting this post. The Melvins are just a band.
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Well, this is the thing - either you understand what I said or you don't; the meaning is pretty self-evident - of course there's a presumed value-judgement within the context of what I said. This isn't absolute, but it isn't therefore obscure. I don't believe you don't understand what I said, and what I was getting at. I also don't think you're thinking I was making an empirical statement. I think you're well aware that I was describing why I don't like the Melvins. I'm sure you're aware this doesn't matter one jot in the great manner of things. You can complicate matters all you like (and you do seem to like it) but this isn't a thread for an analysis of the suppressed premises of blithe internet statements on bands; neither is it the thread to disentangle the horizon-point of semiotic saturation within the given context. It
could be, but you're going to have to re-word your questions better
in order to make it so, otherwise you're just being a prick. Obviously, in kind, I'm being a cunt.