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i never really got into them, i remember about 6 or 7 years ago when they were on mtv with some frquency that i found them to be far more interesting than any of the other new-metal shite.
also, i think they are about the only band i can think of off the top of my head who are influenced by nirvana and aren't pure crap.
i'll download this album over the weekend and give it a listen.
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