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Old 07.18.2015, 07:31 PM   #39459
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I guess I don't see it in those terms. To be clear, I don't believe in conspicuous consumption, or in outright greed. But capitalism feels more to me like the weave of life, or like the skin we breathe in, not the uniform we put on. Services are rendered, services are paid for. I've met a few people who attempt to escape the system, who even think they've escaped, e.g., I know people who live in a bus to escape the system of banking and feeding the mortgage system, etc., and lo and behold, they're now RENTING space for their bus on property for which somebody else pays the MORTGAGE! (What they've done is basically become selfish people who live off the generosity of people who are still part of the capitalist system.) There is no escape from the system we live in. We can rail against it, hate it, and yet, it's what we have. I think we can make it better, and to my view, that means blending it with some form of socialism, but to think there's another way is simply delusional, I think.

I'm not part of the information economy, so I'm not seeing that happening, obviously. I would guess the change you describe might take place there without impacting the larger economy.

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that may be, but i'm very fucking uncomfortable in it-- like when i had to wear a school uniform because i went to a school that required a uniform. by virtue of attending that school i had to, whether i liked it or not, wear that uniform.

but see, i've always been a recalcitrant noncomformist. i was extremely happy when i didnt' have to wear that uniform anymore.

the other thing that nik points out is-- the capitalist model is a leaky lifeboat at this point-- especially when it comes to the "information economy".

you know before gaymotron's latest season was released, millions of people had already seen it? and they have hordes of lawyers and money to incentivize the cops-- i don't.

my friend the copyright gangrapist PAYS for an anonymyzer service that lets him download whatever he wants.

yep, it costs more than a monthly netflix subscription i think.
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