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Originally Posted by Severian
And louder, sorry my friend but rap and hip hop really aren't the same thing. It's more like a square is a rectangle is a square situation. Rap, as a genre, is basically just "hip-hop with vocals".
Hip-hop is obviously much more broad. Hip-hop includes instrumental music, beat, scratching production, or sometimes just a vibe. Frank Ocean is hip-hop, more or less, and he was in a rap-heavy collective, but is he "Rap"? No.
Anyway, really. Rectangles and squares.
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Frank Ocean is R&B man. i wouldn't consider him "hip-hop" in 100 years.
we can argue about genres all day so whatever.