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Originally Posted by notyourfiend
and to wellcharge - my professor told me those statistics (in 2008 i think...or maybe it was late 2007 but you get the drift) I'm not sure exactly where she got them from but she is extremely active in the international feminist movement (that's her field of expertise) so i trust her word. also, i enjoy a lot of rap music. i think that treating women like shit has nothing to do with making good beats. i respect rap artists which actual talent who don't resort to calling women bitches and hoes and putting them in bikinis to sell albums. real rappers dont need to do such juvenile crap.
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okay, as much as i'm certain that those problems exist, without an indepth explanation of the statistics they don't mean anything. If women are being paid less for the same job that's terrible but if it's a natural average then it's likely due to the type of work people are doing, i've never worked in iceland but i haven't ever seen women getting less for the same work anywhere i've been,although i'm sure it happens.alot of higher wage jobs are in industries like construction,automotives, manufacturing and that could be a large factor in the statistic if it's a national average, the best paying job i've seen that doesn't require education and connections etc. is the oil rigs, extremely high wages many thousands of men there but almost no women are willing to do it; something like that could affect the average hugely.Maybe the glass ceiling thing mentioned by glice isn't in play if that stat is only wages and doesn't include salaried jobs, although if it does include them then he's probably right,hard to tell without a source
i mean i don't even necessarily disagree with you on anything but you should never point to statistics if you don't know where they came from or what they mean, stats without explanations are as bad as a lie