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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

by OUR definition of racist every single european back in darwin's time was racist

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

exactly. he was a fucking victorian. they had empire in their brains. to condemn individuals because of the morals of their time is sheer ignorance.

bull shit to both of you..
if all Victorians or all europeans were racist then explain these kind folks..
A

• William Allen (Quaker)

B

• Thomas Babington
• Joseph Beldam
• Thomas Binney
• Samuel Bowly
• Henry Brougham, 1st Baron Brougham and Vaux
• Sir Thomas Buxton, 1st Baronet

C

• John Clarkson (abolitionist)
• Thomas Clarkson
• Josiah Conder (editor and author)

D

• William Dawes (Royal Marines officer)
• Thomas Day

E

• Edward James Eliot

F

• William Forster (philanthropist)
• Charles James Fox

H

• Christopher Newman Hall

H cont.

• Robert Halley
• John Scandrett Harford
• Francis Hargrave
• John Hobbis Harris
• David Hartley (the Younger)
• Elizabeth Heyrick
• Samuel Hoare Jr
• John Hoppus

K

• Joseph Ketley
• William Knibb

M

• Hannah More
• William Morgan (abolitionist)
• Samuel Morley (MP)

N

• John Newton

P

• John Pye-Smith

R

• William Rathbone III
• William Rathbone IV

R cont.

• Richard Rathbone
• Andrew Reed (clergyman)
• Elizabeth Jesser Reid
• William Roscoe

S

• John Scoble
• Granville Sharp
• James Sherman (minister)
• William Smith (abolitionist)
• Walter Spencer Stanhope
• Percival Stockdale

T

• Jeremiah Thompson
• Henry Thornton (abolitionist)

W

• Josiah Wedgwood
• William Wilberforce

Y

• Ann Yearsley

and these

B

• Jacques Pierre Brissot

C

• Étienne Clavière
• Marquis de Condorcet

D

• Edmond Louis Alexis Dubois-Crancé

G

• Henri Grégoire

H

• Victor Hugues

I

• François-André Isambert

P

• Étienne Polverel

R

• Julien Raimond

S

• Victor Schoelcher
• Society of the Friends of the Blacks
• Léger-Félicité Sonthonax

V

• Jean Alexandre Vaillant

Racism may have been the norm of the 18th/19th century, but lets not all be so naive to assume that everybody in Europe was a racist, because that is simply not true, there were many many people who were NOT racist, and supported movements against slavery, bigotry and social racism..

so lets not exonerate Darwin because of the context of his era, because that is simply a cop-out for his misguided personal beliefs. Racism is universal crime, and it remains so across history. There were people who lived and were even martyred for the cause of equality and social justice, and this idea that all Europeans were universally racist is a mockery of their struggle..