sorry guys hes right, sabbath is way closer to the ramones sound wise than the stooges were. i remember from blastitude's top 100 records of all time, master of reality was way up on the list, and larry o'dolman argues that sabbath's guitar riffs anf rhythms would become the standard for punk, just played faster. he says you play it on 45, its the ramones, play it on 72, itts the angry samoans. so true.
listen to pink reason